{"id":629,"date":"2010-07-21T17:28:58","date_gmt":"2010-07-21T16:28:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sobaseki.com\/wordpress\/2010\/07\/21\/blog-banter-19-ccp-and-the-csm\/"},"modified":"2010-07-28T07:23:11","modified_gmt":"2010-07-28T06:23:11","slug":"blog-banter-19-ccp-and-the-csm","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sobaseki.com\/wordpress\/2010\/07\/21\/blog-banter-19-ccp-and-the-csm\/","title":{"rendered":"Blog Banter #19 &ndash; CCP and the CSM"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Welcome to the nineteenth installment of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.crazykinux.com\/2009\/05\/eve-blog-banters.html\">EVE Blog Banter<\/a>, the monthly EVE Online blogging extravaganza created by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.crazykinux.com\/\">CrazyKinux<\/a>. The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.crazykinux.com\/2009\/05\/eve-blog-banters.html\">EVE Blog Banter<\/a> involves an enthusiastic group of gaming bloggers, a common topic within the realm of EVE Online, and a week to post articles pertaining to the said topic. The resulting articles can either be short or quite extensive, either funny or dead serious, but are always a great fun to read! Any questions about the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.crazykinux.com\/2009\/05\/eve-blog-banters.html\">EVE Blog Banter<\/a> should be directed to <a href=\"mailto:crazykinux@gmail.com\">crazykinux@gmail.com<\/a>. Check out other EVE Blog Banter articles at the bottom of this post!<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>This months topic comes to us from <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/evepress\">@evepress<\/a>, and he asks: <em>The CSM: CCP\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Meta Game? \u00e2\u20ac\u201c The CSM, an eve players voice to CCP. Right? In the grand scheme of things yes, the players bring up issues and the CSM presents them to CCP. But in its current iteration the CSM was supposed to be given small authority to assign CCP assets to projects that the CSM thought needed work on. As it has now come out this is not the case. So fellow bloggers, is the CSM worth it, has the CSM improved the game in any way, or is it just a well thought out scam by CCP to give us players a false sense of input in the game? What\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s your take?<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This BlogBanter comes at a delicate time, when <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eveonline.com\/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&amp;threadID=1354510&amp;page=1\">the shit<\/a> has hit the proverbial fan after the minutes of the latest CSM \u00e2\u20ac\u201c CCP meeting had been released. If I have to answer this question at the moment, then I would say, No at the moment the CSM isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t really worth it if no development time can be assigned to any issues. Of course it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s useful to keep the conversation going, but if it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s just talk and no action it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s pretty much useless. CCP does send out press releases about the CSM (at least I see the same type of articles on various press sites) so it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s still being used as a PR tool. Reading the latest \u00e2\u20ac\u02dc18months\u00e2\u20ac\u2122 devblog and the responses by various CCP employees, I get the impression that at the moment CCP doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t really know what to do with the CSM and CCP_Zulu even seems annoyed by them.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"display: inline; border-width: 0px;\" title=\"athens1\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sobaseki.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/athens1.gif\" border=\"0\" alt=\"athens1\" width=\"420\" height=\"232\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Overall though I think the CSM has been useful, if not only for the skill queue and various other accomplishments. It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a really nice idea to have some people represent the players who bring forward concerns by the players. It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s then up to CCP to decide what will be addressed and what will not. Of course we do understand they can not do everything that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s being proposed, but at least some issues would be nice. I assume that was the original idea behind it\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6<\/p>\n<p>See other participants:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.crazykinux.com\/2010\/07\/eve-blog-banter-19.html\">Growing Pains | CrazyKinux&#8217;s Musing<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/yriellevandis.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/16\/csm-hoax-or-serious-business\/\">CSM: Hoax or Serious Business? \u00c2\u00ab Lost in New Eden<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/durzosmith.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/15\/blog-banter-19-csm-power-to-the-people-or-puppets-of-ccp\/\">CSM-Power to the people or puppets of CCP \u00c2\u00ab A whole lot of Yarrrr!!!<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/manasi.eveplayer.net\/2010\/07\/gaming-the-csm\/\">Gaming the CSM | A Mule in EvE<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.starfleetcomms.com\/content\/taste_democracy\">A Taste Of Democracy | StarFleet Comms<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/keithneilson.co.uk\/blog-banter-19-csm-player-power-or-paper-tiger\/\">CSM: Player Power or Paper Tiger? | I Am Keith Neilson<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/ralphadogs.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/20\/governance-thrash-redux\/\">Governance Thrash Redux? \u00c2\u00ab The Ralpha Dogs<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/numtini.dreamhosters.com\/2010\/07\/20\/ccp-doesnt-care-blog-banter-19\/\">CCP Doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t Care: Blog Banter 19 \u00c2\u00ab OMG! You&#8217;re a Chick?!<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/cataclysmicvariable.blogspot.com\/2010\/07\/its-crunch-time.html\">The Cataclysmic Variable: It&#8217;s Crunch Time!<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/podlogs.com\/gunsofeld\/2010\/07\/20\/the-19th-eve-blog-banter-is-upon-us-and-about-the-csm-and-ccp\/\">The 19th EVE Blog Banter is upon us\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 and about the CSM and CCP | Victoria Aut Mors<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/carebearconfessions.blogspot.com\/2010\/07\/csm-lame-duck-from-beginning_20.html\">CSM: Lame Duck from the beginning?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/denseveldspar.blogspot.com\/2010\/07\/blog-banter-19.html\">Blog Banter #19 &lt;&lt; Dense Veldspar<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/rocwieler.com\/2010\/07\/21\/blog-banter-19\/\">Be careful what you say, Roc \u00c2\u00ab Roc\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Ramblings<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/tiberustundrif.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/22\/blog-banter-exchange-fraking-phone-numbers\/\">Exchange Fraking Phone Numbers \u00c2\u00ab Scrap Metal &amp; Faction Ammo<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/industrialcrisis.wordpress.com\/2010\/07\/21\/blog-banter-19-assumptions\/\">Blog Banter #19: Assumptions<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/evereallife.blogspot.com\/2010\/07\/eve-blog-banter-19.html\">EVE Blog Banter #19 | EVE on Real Life<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/podlogs.com\/acarebearsjourney\/2010\/07\/24\/eve-blog-banter-19-a-reality-check\/\">A Reality Check | A &#8220;CareBears&#8221; Journey<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flyreckless.com\/blog\/?p=429\">Quit your bitching | Fly Reckless &#8211; EVE Online<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/scramweb.blogspot.com\/2010\/07\/blog-banter-19-war-has-come-to-eve.html\">War has come to EVE | Scram Web<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.sobaseki.com\/wordpress\/2010\/07\/21\/blog-banter-19-ccp-and-the-csm\/\">CCP and the CSM | Morphisat&#8217;s Blog<\/a><\/li>\n<li><em>More to come&#8230;<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Welcome to the nineteenth installment of the EVE Blog Banter, the monthly EVE Online blogging extravaganza created by CrazyKinux. The EVE Blog Banter involves an enthusiastic group of gaming bloggers, a common topic within the realm of EVE Online, and a week to post articles pertaining to the said topic. The resulting articles can either &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sobaseki.com\/wordpress\/2010\/07\/21\/blog-banter-19-ccp-and-the-csm\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Blog Banter #19 &ndash; CCP and the CSM<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[36,3],"tags":[98,164,59,101],"class_list":["post-629","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blogpack","category-general","tag-blog-banter","tag-blogbanter","tag-ccp","tag-csm"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pXll4-a9","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sobaseki.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/629","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sobaseki.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sobaseki.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sobaseki.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sobaseki.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=629"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.sobaseki.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/629\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":633,"href":"https:\/\/www.sobaseki.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/629\/revisions\/633"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sobaseki.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=629"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sobaseki.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=629"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sobaseki.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=629"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}