In April our alliance started renting some 0.0 from TCF in Wicked Creek. After a somewhat rough start, we settled in and could get some ratting and mining (Arkanor and Gneiss) done, even though small gangs of bad guys (ie. Reds in 0.0 speak) entered the area.
But over the past six weeks or so, the situation worsened. There are now continuously gangs coming in and out. Clownpunchers, Bob, Pure, Goodfellows and what not, can come and go as they please. TCF defense is nowhere to be seen, and the locals aren’t strong enough to take on these organized gangs. And then there is also a few Goons from time to time, who are blue to TCF but red to most other people, which is then cause for lively debate on the security channel.
To make things worse, last month or so (or the month before) the rent was upped. From 200 to 250 a month. Plus you also have to rent an office for 100 mil a month. Our corp isn’t very big, so this was straining the corp wallet a bit. As paying 350mil a month for space you can hardly use doesn’t make a lot of sense, we decided to bail out a few weeks back. The carriers took back most important stuff (ie. nice loot from ratting etc) and we all sold off our ratting and mining gear. I guess we’re not the only ones, the market has taken a tumble now in Wicked Creek. Lots of other people leaving the area as well I assume, so no more 350mil a month for TCF.
All in all it was an interesting experience. To be honest 0.0 is not all it’s cracked up to be. I might make a blogpost about that soon. I especially find it very annoying that other people (ie. mainly the Reds) can dictate what I can and cannot do in game…
So where do we go from here ? I am doing missions, invention and some exploration in empire at the moment, and factional warfare with an alter ego. The corp is scattered about in empire at the moment, with most people doing their own thing. We have been looking into other 0.0 rental options, but haven’t found a very appealing one yet. So if you know something or can make me some sort of offer, I am all ears ;).
Heh, and I just moved into Wicked Creek. Oh well, more profit for me.
Wicked creek died because TCF kicked out their WIcked Creek security force (Zenith Affinity) who handled about 90% of all invasions. Why was that was done? Well, you should ask TCF.
I’m sorry that you got screwed as a bystander. You really should give 0.0 another shot in a different area that’s politically stable (relatively speaking. 🙂 ).
Disclaimer: I’m a bit biased because I was a fresh recruit to a ZAF corporation at the time that this happened. 8-( So my foray into 0.0 was also heavily disrupted from the get go as well.
Try not to let that experience put you off 0.0, the opportunities it will give you are nearly endless.
It’s unfortunate you got a bad landlord, that didn’t complete their side of the bargin. However their are plenty of other alliances that will negotiate (and honour) any rental agreement your alliance may make.
Well WTM I have been searching for a bit, but can’t find much at the moment. If you got any pointers ;).
Trouble with renting, I guess, is that are you paying for space to use or security? Worth getting it clear up front. Once roaming gangs know they can get easy ganks against mining corps/ alliances, they’ll come back more often.
Thing to do is make it hard for them to get easy kills, and they’ll get bored.
You’re right Ombey. Problem is having that mentality is one thing, but applying it to all the other renters is another. We’re talking about an environment in which ratters/miners would ignore intel channels, ignore local, and proceed to scream for help when they get caught in a belt. No matter how many times you tell them, they just don’t learn.
With BoB on it’s Max campaign, I suspect a lot of smaller entities are going to find it hard to live in 0.0. This is the problem till you get beyond a certain size. When the big boys are disrupted, the small fry pay the price. Glad to see you got your assets out.
Its sooo true Wicked Creek residents are so scared of fighting its unbelievable. You can go in with a small gang of 2-5 guys no one will bother you as you pounce on some poor guy ratting outside the station systems. Heck you can setup a dictor and it will take the residents 30-60 mins to form a sizeable response.
Where is TCF to be found? They are in Curse making isk where their assets aren’t in jeopardy or out on campaigns trying to gain more territory to rent out. TCF are true slum lords.
Im in an alliance now in fountain. We got PVP, Mining, Invention, Everything really. Fountain is a pretty peaceful place, however we just moved in so everyone is checking us out, so our PVP Corps are having fun with that, but after we get ALL our POS’s set up and get sov. so we have a station it’ll be good. if your interested let me know.